Circumcision Practices

Orphans and Handicapped


Mandatory Circumcision for Orphan Boys

UK:  I believe that it was the norm in Victorian and Edwardian Britain for boys taken into orphanages to be routinely circumcised on admission.

A few years ago there was a 'documentary' program on British TV about children from orphanages in the 1950s being shipped off to the Colonies - Australia and Canada in particular - to help build up the populations there.  This showed them all taken to the local hospital to have their tonsils removed before the journey.  No mention was made (naturally!) of the fact that the boys were almost certainly also circumcised had this not been done on entry to the orphanage.

Australia:  I have a good friend who was brought up in an orphanage, in Australia,  and he was routinely cut at 5yrs and he told me that all the other uncut boys of that age were also done.

Jozua

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I had a school friend who was an orphan and was (to my initial surprise) circumcised.  I imagine he had been in an up-market sort of orphanage since he was subsequently at a fee-paying school.  In other words, I presume his inheritance had left him reasonably well cared for.

One has to remember that orphanages have a duty of care.  There will be a doctor who looks after the orphanage and if his advice is that boys should be circumcised (or that children should have their tonsils out) the orphanage isn't going to apply that advice selectively - they are pretty much bound to apply it to all.

 James

United States:  Routine circumcision of boys entering orphanages was often the case in the United States prior to the 1960's.  This was a procedure that was paid for by government insurance.  Additionally, these facilities had doctors on call that could easily do a boy's circumcision, if it hadn't already been done at birth.  Of course, orphanages are no more.  However, the practice of getting boys circumcised when they are orphans continues even to this day.

I personally know of a home that takes in orphan and troubled boys.  Most usually the parents are still alive, but incarcerated.  They usually have anywhere from 4 - 8 boys between 6 and 16 years of age.  The parents who run the home look after the boys until some permanent arrangements can be found.  However, some of the boys end up staying with them for several years.  Both of these parents are very pro-circumcision and have had any boy who arrives uncut, circumcised within the first three months of his stay.  This is done with the State's permission and they even pay for the procedure.  I believe every boy has 'agreed' he wanted to be circumcised, and that is all that the social worker that is in charge asks.  "Do you agree with this?  Do you want to be circumcised?"  About 70% of the boys are black or Hispanic, and the circumcision rate upon entry has been only about 50% of all boys.  So, they've helped a number of boys get circumcised.


Routine Circumcision For Boys With Mental Incapacity

Australia:  I have been informally told by staff working at a state caring facility that most of the males have been circumcised after admission. I presume it therefore an informal and unwritten policy, but certainly very much in effect to this day.

United States  In High School, there were "retarded" boys who went to our school in a separate class. The rate of cut and uncut was about 50/50.  Of these boys, all of the ones who lived at the special home were circumcised.  It was the feeling then that automatically circumcising mentally retarded boys was necessary since they will have a much more difficult task keeping themselves clean.

Early removal of their foreskin saves them the problem of trying to learn penile hygiene and the embarrassment of having others check their 'private parts' to see that they have washed properly.


Circumcision of My Handicapped Son at age 10

I was circ’d at age 19 in the Infirmary at the U of W sport facilities which I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. After graduating from the U, I became a teacher in one of the local schools. Even though completely heterosexual, I never married. When computers began to be a bit more available in the 70s, I stopped teaching and wrote computer programs for the school district, mostly at our school bus facility to track bus costs. I could set my own time schedule for work. My parents had both died and I was living in our Lake Washington waterfront family home.

I had a friend that was in charge of vocational rehabilitation for Washington State. He told me there was a group home for boys in Everett, a few miles north of Seattle that was going to be closed. There was a boy, Ron, that was 8 years old that had a genetic nerve disease, NF2, that was going to be difficult to place, would I take him?

I had the time and actually thought it would work out pretty good. Since it was the middle of the school year I had him home on weekends until the school year was over. He turned 9 during the school year. This boy had been removed from his mother and aunt by a court because of child abuse hence his living in the group home. Let’s say this boy did not have much in the way of good social skills or knowledge of personal hygiene. Every day was an uphill struggle. It didn’t take long to see why they couldn’t get anyone to take him. A one word description would have been incorrigible.

One of the things suggested for taking on a child like this was bonding. Take the child on a long car trip and then the child would see he had a home when he returned from the trip. I asked Ron where he wanted to go, he said Disneyland. Since it is a long drive from the Seattle area to Anaheim, my neighbor’s son, Mike, who had just turned 16 and had a new driver’s license was willing to go along. He was tolerant of my very active 9 year old and willing to help in the long drive there and back, besides he wanted to go to Disneyland himself.

When we were at the Disneyland Hotel while they were changing to go in the pool I heard Ron talking to Mike. He asked Mike how come they looked different, was it because Mike was older, would he look like that in a couple of years? Mike told him, no, it was because I, speaking of himself, was circumcised and you were not. You would need to be circumcised to look like me. Ask your dad about it.

Well, Ron never did ask me, but he did not need to, I was going to have him circumcised as soon as I had the authority. There was a delay in getting the final adoption papers because his mother, who I never met, did not sign a release until two weeks before he turned 10. Two weeks after he turned 10, I had him in our family doctor’s office to make arrangements for being circumcised. I didn’t talk to Ron about it, this was going to be done, my decision. He did say a couple of times that he wanted to look like our neighbor who he admired so I guess he wanted it done.

NF2 is a terrible disease. Small benign tumors form on the nerve linings causing all sorts of problems depending on the affected nerve. He had lost the sight in one eye to a tumor on the optic nerve the first year he was with me and had a tad less than perfect motor control in his arms and hands. There was always a puddle of urine on the floor around the toilet before his circumcision, a combination of poor vision, hand motor control, and foreskin. He was used to being prodded and poked by doctors and having small tumors removed so this pre circumcision visit to the doctor was about normal for him.

My experience with a rather loose cut was not always satisfactory so I asked to doctor to do a tight cut for him. When we got to the doctor’s office the next morning everything was ready and we went right into the back room, I held his hand while he had a local and the doctor went right ahead. It didn’t take very long, He used a clamp, I think Gomco, but didn’t know the names of things then. His cut was indeed tight with the scar not quite half way up the shaft. This tight cut turned out to be important later. Ron was used to tumor surgeries and didn’t seemed to have any discomfort with the circumcision, he healed rapidly. For a 10 year old he was open about talking about it and a couple of weeks later he told me he really liked it, he looked like Mike and the other boys at school and he liked how much easier it was to go to the bathroom and not have to clean up the floor.

Since we lived on the lake, it was not uncommon for him to walk downstairs from his room in the buff, go out on the back porch, and hop in the lake for a swim. He didn’t use a swim suit very often and never had a ‘swim suit’ tan. I must say he was a pretty good looking fellow, not very tall, and not shy at all about sitting out in the sun for his over all tan when he was in high school and after. He brought school friends to go swimming all the time during the summer, they almost always swam in the buff with him, I never saw one that wasn’t circ’d.

One cold winter day when he was a senior in high school and a fully mature 17 year old, out of the blue, he walked into the living room wearing only his shorts and stood in front of me. He usually walked out to the lake with nothing on but this was winter time and he wasn’t going swimming. He pulled his shorts off, standing bare and said, look at this, pointing to his scar, I was really proud when you had me circumcised when I first came to live here. He said he had talked to some friends at school about circumcisions that afternoon, about their circumcisions, and how they all liked the way they were. He wanted to let me know, and tell me he loved me for being his dad. It was hard to keep a tear from my eye, how changed he was from the intolerable 8 year old that first came to live with me 9 years earlier.

Because of his poor eyesight he was unable to drive and did not leave home when he was out of high school. His NF2 disease begin to take it’s toll. When he was 23 years old, he gradually lost his hearing because of NF2 tumors on both auditory nerves. Television has close captioning and sign language allowed us to talk. At 27 his leg motor control worsened, it became difficult for him to walk and he had to be in a wheelchair. It was at this time the tight circumcision was wise. When we went out in the car and at night when he was in bed, I had to help him put a condom catheter on. This was much easier to put on with the tight skin. We had to keep the hair trimmed because one hair under the condom catheter hurt. When he needed to go, all he had to do was go, the urine would flow down into a bag under the wheelchair or bed. With him unable to use his hands very well by then, I can imagine the cleaning problems we would have had to face had he not been circumcised.

He finally became too much for me to handle at home by age 30. There was a care facility about a half a mile from home that took care of 5 young men in a regular house. They had an opening for Ron, he didn’t like being away from home at first but he became friends with the other young fellows there and came to like the place. At the care facility they used a foley catheter, it also is easier to use when circumcised. The condom catheter could not be used continually, the foley could stay in for about two weeks at a time. It is a small tube inserted into the penis and pushed up into the bladder and held in place by a small balloon inside the bladder. He didn’t like the feeling at first but got used to it. He did not mind the female nurses putting them in but he actually preferred me putting them in and out every other week when the foley needed to be changed.

There was another young fellow in the care facility the same age as Ron that had a broken neck from a car accident, the same type of injury as Christopher Reeve. He was RIC and used a foley also. He didn’t like the nurses changing his foley at all so I did his too when I did Ron’s. The other 3 fellows were younger, 18 to 20, in wheelchairs all RIC with Muscular Dystrophy.

Ron died at age 32 of a brain tumor from the NF2 disease.

I mentioned in later years we used sign language because of his deafness. There isn’t a sign for every word in American Sign Language, for example snow would be signed, white and rain, but there is a sign in ASL for circumcision. Make a loose fist with both hands with the thumbs sticking out. Touch the nail of one thumb with the tip of the other thumb and circle it around front to back a couple of times.

Franz Rosín


Male Reactions to Circumcision
A publication from the 1950's


        The  wish  to possess a circumcised penis is very different from these boys' obsessive interest in female sex characteristics and functions.    At  the  Orthogenic  school,  a ten year old uncircumcised boy, living with a group of boys who had been circumcised in infancy, wanted the operation very badly.   Eventually  we  had  to arrange for circumcision because of adhesions.  When  told  about it he was happy but anxious, as was to be expected. He spoke  at great length about his fear of the pain of the operation.   But  powerful  as were his fears, still more impressive were, his wish for  and,  after  the  operation, his pride in what he called his 'new penis'.  As  soon  as the wound was healed he proudly displayed his penis to everybody,  while  before he had always tried to hide it. As soon as the bandage was taken off  he  declared:  "I think my penis is now very handsome and elegant." With great  pride  he  told  now how much better his penis functioned. Now he could fully  enjoy  masturbation,  which  previously, because of adhesions, had been partly  painful.  He  summed up his feeling by saying: "Boy, I can do anything now."  Circumcision  demonstrated  to  him  the  organ's importance. The freed glans  represented  a  newly won masculinity. Circumcision indeed had provided him with a better penis and sexual pleasures previously not available.

        Similar  observations  were  made  by  Nürnberg during the analysis of adults. The patient had experienced circumcision as a reassertion in general and  of  the  importance  of  the  penis in particular: 'The painful sensation around  the  glans  after the operation drew narcissistic libido to the penis. As  a  consequence,  the patient became more aware of his genital than before. The  experience  of  circumcision  increased penis consciousness as if it were a demonstration of the organ's importance.'

        If  not  inhibited,  boys  like show off their penises with what might be  called  'phallic  pride'.  Competition to determine who has the biggest or best  penis  becomes  a  matter  of  great importance. They demonstrate desire to  know  who  is  further  ahead  in development, who is more manly and less childish.  Exhibiting  the glans freed of the foreskin is part of such efforts to  assert  manliness,  and  in  this  the  circumcised boy is at a definitive advantage:  his  glans  always  shows,  and  this  is often taken as a sign of greater  masculinity. In this respect, too, Nürnberg's observations corroborate those  made  on  our  children.  He says: "By the circumcision the glans penis is  freed...  a  new  penis  is born which looks like phallus in erection with retracted foreskin."



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