There were several postings a few months ago concerning rates of Circumcision in the various provinces of Canada. I had the impression that circumcision was a much less common practice in all but Ontario province. This past weekend I met a colleague who practices in Alberta and is preparing a study. He shared with me the perceptions of adolescent males he treats concerning circumcision. It seems that, at least in southern Alberta, in a radius of 100 miles around Calgary, most teenage males identified themselves as being circumcised and perceive the practice to be universal in Canada. The opinions sampled included athletes who compete in Canadian national sports. I quizzed him specifically on this point and his reaction was “Listen, while Canadians may differ from Americans in many respects, they are still North Americans with regard to this subject”. He, incidentally, identifies himself as an uncircumcised male born in the Francophone (Montreal) region.
M.Witt, PhD (undated, circa 1999)
OBJECTIVE: To determine the prevalence of neonatal circumcision immediately following delisting of the procedure in Ontario and to examine parents’ knowledge, attitudes, and behaviours regarding circumcision.
DESIGN: Cross-sectional survey.
SETTING: Perinatal tertiary care centre in southwestern Ontario.
PARTICIPANTS: Of the 151 mothers approached, three were excluded because they did not speak English and two declined participation; 112 of 146 mothers of healthy male newborns responded [resulting in] a response rate of 77%.
RESULTS: The circumcision rate before delisting had been 56.2%; in the months immediately after, the rate was 59.8% (95% confidence interval was 51%, 69%). Mothers of infants in the outcome groups did not differ significantly in any demographic feature other than education, where the group deciding against circumcision reported higher education levels. Mothers who chose circumcision listed medical (59%) and sociocultural considerations (40%) as most important to their decision. Father’s circumcision status was strongly associated with the infant’s (chi-squared [df 1] = 25.13, P = 0.0001). 74% discussed circumcision with their family physicians prior to requesting the procedure.
CONCLUSIONS: The prevalence of neonatal circumcision did not change significantly after delisting.
As a Canadian physician who has worked for 10 years with venereal diseases, I’d say that
circumcision is absolutely necessary. People who don’t circumcise their boys are playing with fire. I’ve seen incredible infections in uncircumcised males, and I think it’s crazy not to do the procedure. I circumcise all boys in my care.
I’m a busy family doctor in Southern Ontario. I think the real issue here is why we’re fussing about circumcisions at all. Women want their breasts propped up and their facial skin tightened. Men want penile prostheses and hair transplants. If people want circumcisions, providing the risks are controlled, let them pay and let them have it.
Even though I’m Jewish and I circumcised my son for religious reasons, I must admit I increasingly find myself having doubts about the necessity of it. Yet I think it’s reasonable to leave it up to parents, because I don’t believe that circumcising a child causes severe or lasting trauma or results in any major disadvantage. Still, I suspect that over time, although it may take a few generations, we’ll see circumcision go by the wayside.
There are fads in medicine, just as there are in any other discipline, and today’s evidence indicates that perhaps circumcision isn’t a useful medical procedure. But circumcisions have been performed for thousands of years and one thing we know is that the procedure carries no inordinate risk. If parents wish to have their child circumcised, I don’t see how physicians can discourage them from doing it.
I think that circumcision should be done on all newborn Canadian boys. The risk of infection is real - one in 20 boys will require a circumcision at some time in their lives due to infection or other problems. As a psychiatrist, I’ve seen a number of boys and men who require circumcision later on; it’s quite a traumatic experience. Furthermore, the African research of Helen Ronald at the University of Manitoba shows that males who’ve been circumcised have a much lower rate of AIDS than males who haven’t undergone the procedure.
I’m a specialist who often deals with this area of medicine, particularly with problems which occur in uncircumcised adult males. If circumcision isn’t adequately assessed by the general population, it’s bound to fall into significant disfavour, which would be unfortunate. Healthcare professionals who discourage circumcision are generally only partially informed about the long-term risks and/or benefits of the procedure. For example, infections or penile cancer are a real concern, but they’re not the major problem. The major problem is recurrent balanoposthitis, which is both physically and socially crippling for the uncircumcised.
I’m a family doctor who’s been in solo practice for over 25 years. I have one son who is circumcised and three daughters. My husband is circumcised and I understand my son-in-law is circumcised. I’m a very strong advocate of circumcision. I see far too much suffering and problems with my male patients when they have to undergo adult circumcision. Or what about when people get older and need special attention? Orderlies aren’t retracting foreskins to ensure proper hygiene when people come into institutional care. Also, most mothers, certainly by the time the child is three, four or five, don’t touch the child’s penis or are very reluctant to do so. Anyway, I think it’s naive to assume that the average person practices good hygiene. Just look at the typical level of gum and teeth care in this country, for goodness sake!
I’ve seen posted on CIRCLIST that Newfoundland is sometimes referred to as “Canada’s foreskin”. I’ve never heard this, but then my circle of friends is probably too polite to indulge in such crudities. The fact that Newfoundlanders generally are not circumcised may have something to do with this comment.
John (Newfoundland, Canada)
Why not make circumcision of a male a Rite of Passage in North America, to take place between, say, 10 and 13 years of age? Boys could opt out if that is what they desire. Of course, there would inevitably be peer and parental pressure to conform, but if the kid could stick that out, he would be free to go through life uncircumcised, if that is what he really wanted. I’ve always been fond of this idea -- it takes something which has the potential to be profoundly meaningful and symbolic and allows it to be so. In North America where circumcision is so common, it’s done in a way which strips it of all significance, which is to say at birth when the boy has no choice, no awareness of its significance and no memory of the event. Many people today seem to be complaining that North American society has no rites of passage, and that whereas girls mark their impending adulthood by starting to menstruate, boys really have very little. For a rite of passage to be truly effective it has to be a significant, transforming experience, and certainly having his foreskin removed is something that few 10 -13 year-olds are likely to forget or overlook. Circumcision has the benefit of being a significant body modification without being a mutilation, since a cut penis still functions more or less the same way an uncut penis does, and perhaps even better. There would certainly be peer pressure to conform to this ritual, but I would think it would still be possible to allow the boy a certain amount of choice in what type of circumcision he wanted, and even in how it would be done. It could thus be a sort of custom-made rite of passage.
My son who is now 7 months old, got circumcised at 2 weeks old. Ever since then circumcision has been a big thing for me.. I look at people and wonder if they are done or not... I wonder why they didn’t do it... I argue with my friends who seem to think that it doesn’t matter... but in my head I think sure it does! I’ve done so much studying online about it that my boyfriend probably thinks I’m a weirdo. I live in northern Ontario and I had to drive 1½ hours away to get it done for my son by the only person in northern Ontario that I know does it. He is about 80 years old. What’s going to happen when he passes away?
On two occasions I kept “statisics”, gathered at the gym belonging to a University in south Ontario. My findings were as follows:
Of the 297 observations made in 1993, 71% were circumcised and 29% were uncircumcised.
Of the 114 observations made in 1994, 68% were circumcised, and 32% were uncircumcised.
Of the 307 observations made in 1998, 62% were circumcised, and 38% were uncircumcised.
The gym being attached to a university, the youngest persons I saw would have been around 18. I guess you noticed that the rates of uncircumcised guys are higher in the 1998 observations than in the 1993-4 ones. This is due, I think, to the higher number of uncut undergraduates in 1998 (i.e., persons born about 1978 to 1980). - Brad (York County, Ontario)
Personal testimony of members of the CIRCLIST discussion group.
Neonatal male circumcision after delisting in Ontario. Survey of new parents. R. E. Walton, T. Ostbye, and M. K. Campbell. Can Fam Physician. 1997 July; 43: 1241-1247.
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